{"id":671,"date":"2022-03-29T09:00:00","date_gmt":"2022-03-29T08:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/iti-frenchnetwork.co.uk\/?p=671"},"modified":"2024-10-18T20:34:52","modified_gmt":"2024-10-18T19:34:52","slug":"lost-in-cheesy-translation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/iti-frenchnetwork.co.uk\/?p=671","title":{"rendered":"Lost in (cheesy) Translation"},"content":{"rendered":"\r\n<p class=\"has-large-font-size wp-block-paragraph\"><strong><em>Moment d&#8217;\u00e9garement entre deux langues<br \/>(et un fromage)<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Les exemples d\u2019erreurs de traduction (automatique), souvent tr\u00e8s amusants, vont bon train sur internet et on m\u2019a r\u00e9cemment montr\u00e9 la photo de l\u2019\u00e9tiquette suivante, assortie du commentaire \u00ab\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/jodiemartinphd\/status\/1501060987960528899?t=sGoxm0FBKooQfCBwMAgDyw&amp;s=08\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">This cheese is much more confident in French than in English<\/a>\u00a0\u00bb\u00a0:<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\">\r\n<figure class=\"aligncenter size-full\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"463\" height=\"449\" class=\"wp-image-673\" src=\"https:\/\/iti-frenchnetwork.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Cheese.jpg\" alt=\"\" srcset=\"https:\/\/iti-frenchnetwork.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Cheese.jpg 463w, https:\/\/iti-frenchnetwork.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/03\/Cheese-300x291.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 463px) 100vw, 463px\" \/><\/figure>\r\n<\/div>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Je m\u2019attendais \u00e0 rire autant que mon amie anglophone, mais m\u00eame apr\u00e8s avoir lu l\u2019\u00e9tiquette plusieurs fois, impossible de saisir la diff\u00e9rence de traduction qui lui semblait pourtant \u00e0 la fois si \u00e9vidente et si dr\u00f4le. Assez frustrant quand vous \u00eates cens\u00e9e \u00eatre l\u2019experte en traduction (et en fromage).<br \/><br \/>Il a donc fallu passer par une courte p\u00e9riode d\u2019affinage de la question pour qu\u2019une compr\u00e9hension mutuelle puisse finalement arriver \u00e0 maturation\u2026<br \/><br \/>D\u2019abord, se rendre compte que la traduction litt\u00e9rale de \u201csans doute\u201d par \u201cwithout doubt\u201d peut sembler transparente, ce qui donnerait \u00e0 ce cheddar, en anglais, la certitude absolue de sa domination culinaire sur le monde (et irait dans le sens de l\u2019amour bien connu des Fran\u00e7ais.es pour ce produit laitier).<br \/><br \/>Ensuite, r\u00e9aliser que cette expression contrasterait ainsi beaucoup avec la version anglaise tr\u00e8s h\u00e9sitante de \u201cit might\u00a0just be the best\u201d (et on aurait un bel exemple d\u2019une de ces formules euph\u00e9mistiques ch\u00e8res aux Britanniques).<br \/><br \/>Finalement, accepter de voir ces consid\u00e9rations culturelles perdre de leur saveur lorsque l\u2019on d\u00e9couvre en bas \u00e0 droite que ce fromage \u201cskouik-skouik\u201d(1) est en fait produit au Canada\u00a0! Et si, de notre c\u00f4t\u00e9 de l\u2019Atlantique, les Qu\u00e9b\u00e9cois ne sont pas particuli\u00e8rement connus pour leurs fromages, la traduction de l\u2019anglais vers le fran\u00e7ais est quant \u00e0 elle, sans <em>aucun<\/em> doute, l\u2019une de leurs sp\u00e9cialit\u00e9s locales.<br \/><br \/>Car si \u201csans aucun doute\u201d peut bien se traduire par \u201cwithout (any) doubt\u201d, la simple expression \u201csans doute\u201d introduit paradoxalement un doute en fran\u00e7ais, contrairement \u00e0 sa traduction litt\u00e9rale anglaise. Une diff\u00e9rence qui s\u2019explique par l\u2019\u00e9volution historique de l\u2019expression, qui, \u00e0 force d\u2019\u00eatre utilis\u00e9e pour renforcer un propos a fini par produire l\u2019effet inverse(2).<br \/><br \/>De cette fa\u00e7on, <em>sans doute<\/em> \u00ab\u00a0voit \u00e0 partir du XVIII\u00e8me si\u00e8cle sa valeur s\u00e9mantique s\u2019affaiblir, se trouvant progressivement relay\u00e9 dans son sens de certitude absolue par <em>sans aucun doute<\/em> et <em>sans nul doute\u00a0\u00bb<\/em>(3).<br \/><br \/>\u201cSans doute\u201d traduit donc bien la nuance exprim\u00e9e par \u201cit might just be\u201d. Une petite expression qui vient ainsi saler encore un peu la longue liste de faux amis anglais\/fran\u00e7ais et une traduction canadienne savoureuse \u00e0 partager\u00a0\u00bb sans mod\u00e9ration (pour le fromage, je ne peux h\u00e9las pas me prononcer\u00a0!).*<br \/>\u00a0<br \/>*Entre temps, l\u2019auteure du \u201cgazouillis\u201d m\u2019a r\u00e9pondu que \u00ab\u00a0[she is] happy to report that, surprisingly enough, it was indeed excellent cheese. \u00bb<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&nbsp;<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(1) \u00ab\u00a0Au Qu\u00e9bec, le cheddar doux en grain est famili\u00e8rement appel\u00e9 fromage \u201cskouik-skouik\u201d \u00e0 cause du bruit caus\u00e9 par son frottement contre l&#8217;\u00e9mail des dents lors de la mastication initiale.\u00a0\u00bb <a href=\"https:\/\/fr.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Cheddar_(fromage)\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Article de Wikipedia<\/a>.<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(2) \u00ab\u00a0utiliser <em>sans doute<\/em> [\u2026] pour renforcer son propos peut avoir pour effet paradoxal d\u2019affaiblir celui-ci, car le fait d\u2019ajouter une modalisation, quand bien m\u00eame pour exprimer une adh\u00e9sion pleine et enti\u00e8re \u00e0 la proposition en jeu, ouvre indirectement la voie \u00e0 une possible discussion sur le statut de cette proposition.\u00a0\u00bb Autrement dit, \u00ab\u00a0le locuteur s\u2019attend \u00e0 des r\u00e9serves de la part de son interlocuteur\u00a0\u00bb. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cambridge.org\/core\/services\/aop-cambridge-core\/content\/view\/7AB31AE1056737044485AABB47A743B5\/S0959269521000107a.pdf\/sans_doute_et_probablement_des_synonymes.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"><em>Sans doute et probablement : des synonymes ?<\/em><\/a> Anouch Bourmayan et Fumitake Ashino, Journal of French Language Studies (2021), 31, p. 367 (consult\u00e9 en ligne le 11\/03\/2022)<\/p>\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">(3) Ibid.<\/p>\r\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Moment d&#8217;\u00e9garement entre deux langues(et un fromage) Les exemples d\u2019erreurs de traduction (automatique), souvent tr\u00e8s amusants, vont bon train sur 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